The Defias Brotherhood's hidden shipyard under Westfall, ending at Edwin VanCleef's ship. One of the most-run early dungeons.
Where it is
- Location: Moonbrook, Westfall (Eastern Kingdoms).
- Access: Through the mine under Moonbrook. Alliance come from Sentinel Hill. Horde have to cross Alliance land.
Source: Blizzard development notes · checked 11 Nov 2026
Route through the dungeon
The usual order from the entrance to the last boss, from the original game. Optional and rare bosses are marked.
- Entrance Moonbrook, Westfall
- Rhahk'Zor
- Miner Johnson (rare)
- Sneed's Shredder and Sneed
- Gilnid
- Mr. Smite
- Captain Greenskin
- Edwin VanCleef
- Cookie (optional)
Dungeon map
The dungeon's own map from Blizzard's Classic game files. The layout is the original one Forever brought back. Room marks on it come from that version and may not match Forever's bosses. Unverified
Before you go
- Alliance: finish the Defias Brotherhood chain up to the dungeon step first.
- Use the Defias Cannon on the door to the cove, as in Classic. Stay with your group until it opens.
Advice by role
Our own advice. Where it mentions a boss, it goes by player reports or the Classic version, which may have changed. Beta data
| Tank | Mr. Smite stuns and swaps weapons as his health drops. Turn him away from the group. |
| Healer | VanCleef calls adds near the end. Save mana for that phase. |
| DPS | On the ship, kill the Defias adds VanCleef calls before going back to him. |
What's different in Forever
- New Forever quest: Destruction in Deadmines, from Alba Fairmoon, plant explosives by the hidden forge. source Unverified
- Blizzard fixed Alba Fairmoon becoming unavailable for the turn-in (3 November notes). source Confirmed
- Guide sites report hundreds of new items added to the old dungeons, so Classic loot lists are incomplete. source Unverified
- Experience from dungeon enemies went up 50% on 8 November. source Confirmed
Quests worth taking
- The Defias Brotherhood Gryan Stoutmantle, Sentinel Hill (Alliance), ends with VanCleef
- Red Silk Bandanas Scout Riell, Sentinel Hill (Alliance)
- Destruction in Deadmines Alba Fairmoon (new in Forever)
In Classic Unverified
UnverifiedEverything in this section is from the original game, not Forever. It may have changed. Boss order, quests and location are from the original game. Forever kept the dungeon, and Blizzard hasn't published a new boss list.
Classic-era level range: 17–26. Classic-era group size: 5 players.
The Classic-era boss order is in the route above.
Forever bosses and loot
UnverifiedBlizzard hasn't published a boss list or loot table for this dungeon. Bosses and drops go here from our own runs, and drop chances only appear after enough players report kills. Spotted something? Use the comments below or the forum.
Tanks: what you have by level 16
 Protection Warrior | Below the first milestone talent. Newest:  Tactical MasteryTactical MasteryKeep 10 Rage when you change stance. Now baseline.Blizzard beta notesDefensive StanceDefensive StanceTanking stance: less damage taken, more threat. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Protection Paladin | Below the first milestone talent. Newest:  Seal of FurySeal of FuryTanking seal: Holy damage per swing, an absorb shield, and Judgement taunts from 10 yards.Blizzard beta notes Holy StrikeHoly StrikeInstant melee strike that deals Holy damage. 10 s cooldown.Blizzard beta notes |
 Feral Combat Druid | Below the first milestone talent. Newest:  ReviveReviveOut-of-combat resurrection.Blizzard beta notesBear FormBear FormTank form. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game Nature's GraspNature's GraspRoots enemies that hit you. Now baseline.Blizzard beta notes |
Healers: what you have by level 16
 Holy Paladin | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: Seal of FurySeal of FuryTanking seal: Holy damage per swing, an absorb shield, and Judgement taunts from 10 yards.Blizzard beta notesHoly StrikeHoly StrikeInstant melee strike that deals Holy damage. 10 s cooldown.Blizzard beta notes |
 Discipline Priest | Below the first milestone talent. |
 Holy Priest | Below the first milestone talent. |
 Restoration Shaman | Below the first milestone talent. Newest:  Fire totemFire totemFirst Fire totem, from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game Earth totemEarth totemFirst Earth totem, from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Restoration Druid | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: ReviveReviveOut-of-combat resurrection.Blizzard beta notesBear FormBear FormTank form. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in gameNature's GraspNature's GraspRoots enemies that hit you. Now baseline.Blizzard beta notes |
Damage: what you have by level 16
 Arms Warrior | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: Tactical MasteryTactical MasteryKeep 10 Rage when you change stance. Now baseline.Blizzard beta notesDefensive StanceDefensive StanceTanking stance: less damage taken, more threat. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Fury Warrior | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: Tactical MasteryTactical MasteryKeep 10 Rage when you change stance. Now baseline.Blizzard beta notesDefensive StanceDefensive StanceTanking stance: less damage taken, more threat. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Retribution Paladin | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: Seal of FurySeal of FuryTanking seal: Holy damage per swing, an absorb shield, and Judgement taunts from 10 yards.Blizzard beta notesHoly StrikeHoly StrikeInstant melee strike that deals Holy damage. 10 s cooldown.Blizzard beta notes |
 Beast Mastery Hunter | Below the first milestone talent. Newest:  Tame BeastTame BeastTame your first pet. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Marksmanship Hunter | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: Tame BeastTame BeastTame your first pet. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Survival Hunter | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: Tame BeastTame BeastTame your first pet. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Assassination Rogue | Below the first milestone talent. Newest:  StealthStealthMove unseen. Skip fights you don't need.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Combat Rogue | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: StealthStealthMove unseen. Skip fights you don't need.Classic-era level: check in game |
| Subtlety Rogue | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: StealthStealthMove unseen. Skip fights you don't need.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Shadow Priest | Below the first milestone talent. |
 Elemental Combat Shaman | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: Fire totemFire totemFirst Fire totem, from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in gameEarth totemEarth totemFirst Earth totem, from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Enhancement Shaman | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: Fire totemFire totemFirst Fire totem, from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in gameEarth totemEarth totemFirst Earth totem, from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Arcane Mage | Below the first milestone talent. Newest:  FrostboltFrostboltYour main leveling spell: damage plus a slow.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Fire Mage | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: FrostboltFrostboltYour main leveling spell: damage plus a slow.Classic-era level: check in game |
| Frost Mage | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: FrostboltFrostboltYour main leveling spell: damage plus a slow.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Affliction Warlock | Below the first milestone talent. Newest:  Summon VoidwalkerSummon VoidwalkerYour tanking demon. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Demonology Warlock | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: Summon VoidwalkerSummon VoidwalkerYour tanking demon. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Destruction Warlock | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: Summon VoidwalkerSummon VoidwalkerYour tanking demon. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in game |
 Balance Druid | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: ReviveReviveOut-of-combat resurrection.Blizzard beta notesBear FormBear FormTank form. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in gameNature's GraspNature's GraspRoots enemies that hit you. Now baseline.Blizzard beta notes |
| Feral Combat Druid | Below the first milestone talent. Newest: ReviveReviveOut-of-combat resurrection.Blizzard beta notesBear FormBear FormTank form. Learned from a class quest.Classic-era level: check in gameNature's GraspNature's GraspRoots enemies that hit you. Now baseline.Blizzard beta notes |
Derived from Blizzard's published ability levels and milestone talents (one talent point per level from 10).
FAQ
What level is The Deadmines in WoW Forever?
The game's own dungeon settings start it at level 16. In Classic it ran 17–26.
Where is The Deadmines?
Moonbrook, Westfall (Eastern Kingdoms).
How do you get into The Deadmines?
Through the mine under Moonbrook. Alliance come from Sentinel Hill. Horde have to cross Alliance land.
What bosses are in The Deadmines in WoW Forever?
In Classic: Rhahk'Zor, Miner Johnson (rare), Sneed's Shredder and Sneed, Gilnid, Mr. Smite, Captain Greenskin, Edwin VanCleef, Cookie (optional). Blizzard hasn't published a Forever list, so treat it as a starting point.